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Finance Committee — 2025-11-10

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3:04Communication from Planning Director Byington and Development Officer Wyman regarding FY26 HUD Annual Action Plan Resolution & Lakewood Citizens Advisory Committee FY26 Federal Funding Allocation Recommendations. (referred to Finance 11/10/25)
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR · ASR heard nay/opposed/abstain wording — verify
  • 19:49 “that will be the second building”
  • 20:32 “to hire a second person.”
  • 14:16 “and hope that they are adopted”
  • 26:09 “as opposed to our neighbors to the east.”
35:52RESOLUTION 2025-66 - A RESOLUTION to take effect immediately provided it receives the affirmative vote of at least two thirds of the members of Council, or otherwise to take effect and be in force after the earliest period allowed by law, authorizing and d
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  • 36:14 “Second.”
  • 36:15 “It is, motion has been made and seconded.”
  • 36:23 “Opposed?”
37:18RESOLUTION 2025-65 - A RESOLUTION to take effect immediately provided it receives the affirmative vote of at least two thirds of the members of Council, or otherwise to take effect and be in force after the earliest period allowed by law, authorizing the M
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR · ASR heard nay/opposed/abstain wording — verify
  • 37:22 “I'll move that the word deeded in section two”
  • 37:31 “Is there a second?”
  • 37:34 “Second.”
  • 37:35 “Motion's been made and seconded.”
  • 37:41 “Hold on a second.”
  • 39:50 “And second, if we lost this tenant,”
  • 42:18 “There is an opportunity on the second floor”
  • 42:42 “Is there anyone on the second floor right now?”

Full ASR transcript

0:00 We're ready to go.
0:01 I'm going to call a meeting to order.
0:03 I can't see the administration's table.
0:05 Is everybody ready in attendance?
0:08 Ready to rock.
0:10 OK, thanks.
0:12 All right, give me one second here.
0:16 OK, I'd like to call a pursuant
0:20 to likely codified ordinances 109.01b1 as chair.
0:29 I'm calling for this evening's finance committee
0:32 to be held partially by videoconference
0:34 due to the special circumstance of personal illness.
0:38 Under ordinance 109.01c, councilmembers
0:42 participating remotely need not be
0:45 present for the purposes of voting or determining a quorum.
0:53 So I'd like to call the meeting to order.
0:56 There's a couple points I'll make.
0:57 First, I'm going to be fairly brief in my remarks.
1:03 I hope councilmembers that will be in a position
1:06 to approve and report out both matters before us tonight.
1:14 Before I forget, the law direction is there.
1:17 There's a typo in the section two of resolution,
1:26 the second resolution of the docket, which is related to,
1:32 well, let me just call it up.
1:36 This is a minor point, but I wanted to get it,
1:39 so I don't forget it.
1:43 Section two of the ordinance 2025-60.
1:50 No, I'm going to run.
1:51 Hold on one second, yes.
1:52 Section two, resolution 2025-65.
2:01 Section two, resolution 2025-65.
2:12 Properties are deeded to have been met.
2:14 I think it probably means property
2:17 are deemed to have been met.
2:20 So deeded should be deemed, I think, in section two.
2:23 Just don't let us forget that.
2:24 Thanks.
2:26 OK.
2:27 To the top of the order, we've got the presentation
2:31 from Director Byneton and Development Officer Weiman,
2:38 and I think at least one of the co-chairs of the Citizens
2:42 Advisory Committee to present us
2:46 on what their recommendations are.
2:48 Before jumping into that, Council, colleagues,
2:50 do you have any questions or opening remarks
2:53 you'd like to make?
2:57 OK.
2:58 Why don't we proceed with the presentation?
3:00 Thanks, Director Byneton, if you're there, or Mr. Weiman.
3:09 My name's Dan Weiman.
3:11 I serve as Development Officer in the Liquids Department.
3:19 I'll start over.
3:21 My name is Dan Weiman.
3:22 I serve as Development Officer in the Liquids Department
3:24 Planning and Development.
3:26 I'd like to thank committee members for this opportunity
3:28 to discuss Liquids federal funding sources
3:31 and the annual Citizens Advisory Committee
3:33 process through which these funds are allocated.
3:37 It's my pleasure to introduce FY26 Citizens Advisory
3:40 Committee co-chair, Claire Foley,
3:44 and thank her for her service to our community.
3:46 Unfortunately, Claire's co-chair, Gail Davis,
3:49 is unable to attend this evening.
3:51 Again, my sincere thanks to Gail and Claire
3:54 for their active participation, leadership,
3:56 and service to our community.
4:05 As you see, the 17 members of this year's Citizens Advisory
4:12 Committee are on the left side of the slide,
4:14 and co-chairs Davis and Foley are indicated.
4:17 On the right side is this year's meeting schedule.
4:21 The committee convened four times
4:23 in August and September, which is typical annually.
4:28 Two of those meetings, the first and the fourth,
4:31 included mandatory public hearings.
4:34 HUD requires that at least two public hearings
4:38 be held each year during the CAC process.
4:44 Although all of the meetings are made public
4:47 and are open to the public and properly noticed.
4:53 The committee reviewed funding applications
4:55 and heard presentations from city departments
4:58 and not-for-profit agencies requesting
5:01 2026 Community Development Block Grant, or CDBG,
5:04 and Emergency Solutions Grant, or ESG funds.
5:10 And finally, during its fourth session,
5:14 the CAC developed 2026 CDBG and ESG funding allocation
5:19 recommendations based on an estimated CDBG award in 2026
5:24 of $1.75 million, which is a bit lower than previous years
5:30 given statements by the current administration
5:35 regarding decreased funding for federal housing programs,
5:41 as well as an appropriation by the US House of Representatives
5:50 of $3.3 billion, which is level funding the same as 2025,
5:56 but a $3.1 billion appropriation by the Senate,
6:01 which still needs to be reconciled.
6:03 So given those variables, I just thought
6:08 we needed to be conservative in our estimate
6:10 to make sure we didn't overshoot it.
6:12 And it's better to kind of under-promise
6:17 and be able to increase the allocations
6:21 when we find out what the actual award is
6:23 rather than to over-promise and then have to decrease them.
6:29 Next slide shows the Citizens Advisory Committee's
6:35 2026 allocation recommendations in the far right column.
6:41 Also included here are each activity's 2025 allocation
6:47 and each activity's 2026 funding request.
6:52 What you see shaded at the bottom,
6:55 the bottom seven programs are called activities
6:58 in CDBG parlance are what are called
7:02 public services activities.
7:04 Those are shaded and called out
7:11 because those activities may not exceed 15%
7:17 of total allocations, which in our case
7:20 would be 1.7, as indicated at the bottom of the slide,
7:25 15% of $1.75 million, which is $262,500.
7:31 So if you add up on the far right column,
7:35 those seven amounts, you will arrive at $262,500.
7:41 We cannot allocate a penny more than that
7:46 given the 1.75 million.
7:48 What happens if we are to receive a higher allocation
7:55 ultimately is that those awards
7:58 would be increased proportionally
8:00 based on their original proportion of the 1.75 million.
8:04 So if we receive 1.8 million, for example,
8:08 the food pantry allocation would be increased
8:10 to whatever percentage of $262,500.
8:17 $262,500 is their allocation, sorry,
8:23 the 81045 that they would get under the original scheme
8:27 with 1.75 million would increase
8:30 to that percentage of 1.8 million.
8:33 And that would happen across the board
8:35 for all of those allocations.
8:38 So that's how that would work.
8:40 So the CDBG administration allocation
8:45 at $350,000 is also subject to a cap by HUD
8:50 and that is 20% of the total allocation
8:54 which is necessary given the year-to-year carry forward
8:58 that we have remaining in that account which is minimal.
9:02 So we do need the full 20%,
9:04 which is $350,000 of that 1.75 million
9:08 in order to properly administer the program.
9:12 Street improvements allocation is 850,000.
9:17 We are for the first time ever funding
9:20 public art through CDBG, which is a nice thing to do.
9:25 It's a little different than anything we've done before.
9:28 At 425, we typically year in and year out
9:31 fund building code enforcement.
9:34 Sometimes it's a bit higher, but this year,
9:36 given the year-to-year carry forward, it's 65,000.
9:39 Our affordable housing programs are recommended
9:43 to be funded at 75,000,
9:45 which keeps them at a viable funding level.
9:49 Liquidalized paint rebate program,
9:52 because they had had a large carry forward year-to-year
9:55 for a couple of years, had not been funded in 2025,
10:00 but we have actually increased their funding substantially
10:04 from their typical 42,000 to 75,000,
10:08 which is a nice thing to be able to do.
10:11 And finally, CDBG regulations allow
10:16 for the facilitation of the delivery of the home program,
10:22 which the city also receives home funding.
10:25 So we often allocate funds to facilitate
10:30 to the delivery of that program,
10:31 and we are doing so in 2026,
10:33 at least recommending that at $30,000.
10:36 So I can answer any questions council members have
10:40 about these allocations after the presentation.
10:45 And next,
10:48 are much simpler, straightforward proposition here.
10:54 The committee's recommendations
10:55 for emergency solutions grant funding,
10:58 which are very similar year in and year out.
11:03 The only organization in the city that is capable of
11:08 and experienced administering ESG funds
11:11 is Lakewood Community Services Center or LCNC.
11:15 And they operate, used to operate two programs
11:18 that were eligible in emergency shelter
11:21 and a homelessness prevention program.
11:24 Because when they moved their headquarters
11:27 to the former city youth building,
11:31 they were unable to continue providing
11:33 emergency shelter services.
11:34 So now they provide just one ESG eligible program,
11:37 which is homelessness prevention,
11:39 which is basically rent and utility assistance.
11:42 So $155,000 of the $160,000 estimated reward
11:48 CEC recommended to provide
11:50 for homelessness prevention services.
11:52 And the city typically take,
11:56 utilizes $5,000 every year in ESG funding
11:59 to administer the program itself,
12:02 which is substantial below the statutory cap
12:04 of seven and a half percent of $160,000.
12:09 I'm sorry, but I guess that's the end of my presentation
12:16 because there are no more slides.
12:17 So, you know, I fooled myself there.
12:20 Anyway, thank you very much for the opportunity
12:23 to present these recommended allocations to you.
12:31 And if you'd like to ask me or Director Buyington
12:34 or co-chair Foley any questions about the process,
12:39 or the allocations themselves,
12:41 or anything else about the CEC, I'd be happy to.
12:45 Co-chair Foley, would you like to say a few words?
12:49 And thank you for your service.
12:57 Sorry, it is on.
12:59 Sure, thank you for having me
13:01 and allowing me to be engaged in this process.
13:06 In talking with my co-chair Gail Davis before the session,
13:11 we kind of drafted a little statement
13:13 that we wanted to say about how the process went this year.
13:19 Our recommendations were in line with the city's
13:22 for how to fund these important programs.
13:26 But we'd like to convey
13:27 that this group thought very critically
13:28 about how these funds should be used to serve Lakewood.
13:32 It's our experience
13:33 that Citizens Advisory Committee members
13:36 are often highly engaged and invested
13:38 in their role on this committee.
13:41 This year, some members of the group expressed
13:43 a desire to be more engaged
13:46 in the overall process in ways
13:47 that extend beyond their current responsibilities
13:50 and existing structure.
13:53 This is unsurprising given a genuine interest
13:56 of the typical committee member
13:59 in making meaningful change in our community.
14:02 While we haven't made any changes to the CAC
14:05 as a result of this conversation,
14:06 we may spend some time in the coming months
14:08 exploring the kinds of changes
14:09 that the committee could make
14:11 to increase engagement and their feasibility.
14:15 We're proud of these recommendations
14:16 and hope that they are adopted
14:18 and can serve Lakewood citizens well.
14:23 Well, thank you and very well stated.
14:25 I appreciate that and agree.
14:28 Thank you.
14:30 Director Bynum, do you wanna mention anything
14:32 or can we open it to council members?
14:36 Thank you, Chairman Bullock.
14:38 I don't really have much to say,
14:40 but I just wanted to thank Mr. Wyman.
14:42 He does such a great job and the CAC as well.
14:45 And I appreciate their time,
14:47 you know, reviewing these recommendations.
14:49 And I'd also like to say that I am excited
14:51 to see that the recommendation for public art
14:53 came through as Lakewood Alive explained,
14:57 you know, it's a great program
14:59 and the residents are loving the projects
15:01 that are happening right now.
15:03 Thank you.
15:04 Thank you.
15:07 Oh, Mr. Wyman, just a clarification on,
15:12 you know, affordable housing is such a priority
15:15 as it is for our town
15:17 and it's increasingly difficult to pull off
15:20 as it is today.
15:22 Wouldn't we wanna invest more
15:23 in affordable housing programs
15:26 and our community development in the home
15:29 presumably, I think the home activity delivery also.
15:32 You did a helpful job of refreshing our memories
15:36 on the pain program.
15:38 Now, I think what you're gonna say is
15:42 we base our allocations on observed caseload trends
15:47 which are a little bit neander up and down,
15:50 but you can do pretty good projection.
15:54 And then there's income limits
15:57 for qualifying for these programs.
15:59 So if we had the money, which we don't,
16:02 to triple or quintuple those levels,
16:05 wouldn't we wanna do that?
16:06 And your answer is?
16:09 Of course we would, given an unlimited budget,
16:11 we would love to be able to provide
16:14 and fewer restrictions on who can use the money
16:18 and how we can use it.
16:20 We would obviously allocate more.
16:23 The $75,000 funding level in 26
16:26 is really based on the fact that we have
16:29 a certain amount of program income
16:31 that comes in for the low interest loan program
16:33 which is appropriate or even more than sufficient
16:40 in 26 to fully fund that piece
16:43 of the affordable housing programs that we offer.
16:49 And the ramp or repair accessibility
16:53 and maintenance program, weatherization assistance program
16:58 and home improvement grant program
16:59 which are sort of the other non-revolving loan funds
17:02 that we administer for affordable housing.
17:05 Those three activities combined also have
17:09 with that infusion of $75,000 in 2026 funds
17:14 have a more than sufficient funding level
17:18 to given the, what you said,
17:22 given the sort of pace of projects
17:24 which has picked up enormously over the past two years
17:28 under Marty Castelletti's leadership.
17:33 So those, the volume of projects dipped
17:39 during the pandemic, obviously,
17:42 and then really through the 22, middle of 22,
17:50 and Marty who has been in construction
17:54 as well as administering these kinds of programs
17:58 is really a great project manager
18:01 and he has really increased the volume tremendously.
18:06 And so even given the increased volume,
18:10 the $75,000 really does enable us
18:14 to maintain this increased level.
18:19 I have enough sort of buffer at the end of the year
18:22 so that we can continue to allocate
18:25 let's say 75 to $125,000 a year
18:28 and keep things rolling.
18:30 Okay, so your point is we are at max pace.
18:36 And so what that number represents
18:39 is Lakewood City government is all in
18:44 on supporting affordable housing
18:45 or is it more like now we're doing what we can afford?
18:49 Sounds like it's we're all in.
18:52 I would say the former,
18:53 and remember we also have significant
18:56 home investment partnerships,
18:59 funding that is not discussed during this hearing.
19:04 It's just separate and apart.
19:08 We received that as a member
19:09 of the Cuyahoga County Housing Consortium
19:12 and the annual allocation fluctuates
19:18 between let's say 175 and up to $275,000 a year.
19:22 That money is more difficult to spend
19:24 because we can't do the types of projects
19:28 we do with CDBG smaller homeowner based
19:31 or one to three family projects.
19:35 That's the kind of project that we've discussed
19:37 with council in the past.
19:39 The Nelson Court projects that go side by side,
19:43 four to five unit conversions
19:45 that we've invested $800,000 in
19:47 over the past several years
19:49 that will be the second building
19:51 will be completed in 2026 and 1472 Bell Avenue
19:56 which was recently completed.
19:57 The council just recently authorized the sale of
20:01 that we invested $422,000 I believe.
20:06 That is another way that we are all in on affordable housing.
20:11 Okay, well, obviously if we trust all affordable housing,
20:16 the budget would be much larger,
20:17 but it sounds like the bottleneck
20:19 is not our funding investment
20:22 as much as the criteria for these programs, right?
20:26 I wouldn't even call it a bottleneck.
20:28 I'd say that it's, I mean,
20:31 I don't know that we have the capacity
20:32 to hire a second person.
20:35 We've been at this staffing level for many years now
20:39 and I just, that's not quite feasible.
20:42 So I think that we are doing a tremendous job
20:47 with the staff that we have.
20:48 Yeah, that's great to hear.
20:50 But if we had more staff capacity,
20:52 we would have more crew put on these projects.
20:55 If we had more staff, we'd do less projects probably
20:57 because we'd have far less money to do projects.
21:00 That wasn't the question I was asking.
21:01 If we had staff and the money to back it,
21:04 we could get more done.
21:05 Is that true?
21:06 Certainly, yes.
21:07 Okay, I didn't know that.
21:09 So thank you for answering my question.
21:11 Okay, council members, sorry for hogging the mic.
21:16 I'm gonna go to committee members.
21:17 First, councilwoman Striebeck,
21:18 do you have any questions or points?
21:20 Sure, I do.
21:22 Could you go back a couple of slides
21:24 and show me the history again with the allocations?
21:30 That one.
21:31 Yep, and I absolutely understand
21:35 why you would be conservative with this administration.
21:39 Can you talk a little bit about the time frame
21:42 and when you're expecting these numbers to actualize?
21:46 That's a great question.
21:50 It was difficult to predict under normal circumstances,
21:56 and I would call these not normal circumstances.
22:00 Given the shutdown, which looks like it might be soon,
22:06 it ends imminently, if you've been following the news,
22:12 which has delayed things beyond what they usually are.
22:15 But HUD works in a very peculiar way.
22:21 So we don't find out
22:27 what our current year allocation is,
22:30 sometimes until July or August,
22:37 once in September of the current year.
22:41 And that means when we find out
22:44 and that they just tell us,
22:45 and then pretty quickly after that,
22:47 they send us contracts, right?
22:49 And so within a day, I get the mayor to sign contracts,
22:53 send them back.
22:54 Now, typically, they send us a signed contract by HUD,
22:59 and the mayor signs, and they're fully executed.
23:03 This year, they sent me an unsigned contract a while back.
23:09 I had the mayor sign them and send them back,
23:11 and then the shutdown happened.
23:13 So this year, we still are waiting.
23:18 So it's now November, what, 10th,
23:22 and we have not received fully executed contracts,
23:26 nor have our funds been deposited.
23:27 I was discussing this with Renee not 45 minutes ago.
23:32 I have no, I believe that we will receive the funds,
23:38 assuming the shutdown ends,
23:39 HUD sort of kind of gets through
23:41 whatever backlog they have.
23:46 It will be signed,
23:46 and those funds will be electronically deposited
23:49 in our account with time enough to,
23:52 for me to recoup all the funds that we've advanced
23:57 before the end of the year.
23:58 That is, I think, realistic.
24:01 This is an outlier this year.
24:03 Typically, we will find out, like I said,
24:09 the earliest may be June,
24:12 at the latest, August.
24:15 So that's, you know, that's what we,
24:19 that's what we're working with on an annual basis.
24:21 So it's really a, there's a huge lag.
24:24 Thank you.
24:25 And my concern is, have you been conservative enough
24:28 if there is that so much of a lag?
24:31 I don't think I have been.
24:33 Yeah, I do.
24:34 I mean, I think it's truly based on
24:38 what I spoke of earlier, which is
24:40 the House is publicly approved
24:49 an appropriation of the level funding,
24:52 which would keep us at the same level
24:54 we were at last year, which is 1.83 million.
25:00 And the Senate is 200 million below that.
25:04 So I went conservative.
25:07 I do worry about the administration getting involved
25:13 and trying to knock everything out and down.
25:16 So, yes, I mean, but that,
25:21 I just think that 1.75,
25:23 given my 15 years of experience doing this,
25:26 I understand that everything now is kind of
25:30 up in the air and anything could happen,
25:34 but that was my best estimate based on my experience
25:38 and what I try to keep current on with the graduate
25:42 to what's going on at the federal level.
25:44 Thank you.
25:47 Yeah, Councilor Volk, I have a question, if that's okay.
25:52 I assume it is.
25:55 Thank you.
25:56 I'm always, you know, I had a little experience
25:58 prior to my time on council working on the board
26:01 of Camps Corner Development Corporation,
26:04 and I'm always appreciative of the way we do
26:06 our CBD funding here in Lakewood,
26:09 as opposed to our neighbors to the east.
26:12 Our neighbors to the east.
26:15 And I think it really,
26:18 so it was a good process
26:20 and it gives a lot of certainty
26:21 to the partners we work with.
26:23 So I really appreciate it.
26:24 The one thing to co-chair Foley,
26:28 you hinted at kind of some suggestions
26:30 that you guys might have for the process.
26:35 That's really not in front of us here.
26:37 This is the appropriation,
26:38 but I'm curious if you're comfortable sharing more
26:41 of what you meant by that.
26:47 Sorry, yeah.
26:49 We have, so our current process
26:55 is we hear proposals from a number of organizations.
27:02 Our final meeting is us kind of deliberating
27:07 and coming to a decision about how much funding
27:09 we'll give each organization.
27:11 Between the end of proposals and that final meeting,
27:14 we also get a recommendation from the city
27:19 about that is filled with nuances
27:22 and experience and expertise steeped into it.
27:26 So we take that very seriously.
27:31 It's compressed into four meetings, however,
27:33 and I,
27:35 while we haven't kind of thought about
27:41 or iterated about what a deeper engagement
27:44 might look like, there was desire to do that.
27:48 Of course, the last meeting we had
27:49 to kind of get to that recommendation.
27:52 So that conversation that I hinted at
27:56 had no conclusions or even suggestions.
27:58 It was just more of a desire to understand
28:01 if there was a feasible way
28:02 to become more involved in the process
28:06 beyond those four really highly engaging meetings
28:10 in the fall.
28:11 So no suggestions, just a question
28:17 about what's possible and feasible.
28:20 Thank you, yeah, and I've heard similar feedback
28:25 and I think it's one of those things
28:26 where every process can be improved.
28:30 I think that there's no process out there
28:32 that can't go with some improvement.
28:35 And so, but I guess, you know,
28:37 as the policy makers for the city,
28:41 you know, interested in,
28:43 and I know Gail Davis as well
28:45 and some of the other CAC members.
28:47 So I think we could probably deep dive
28:48 a little bit more into that.
28:49 I'm curious as the allocations,
28:53 how did you come to the numbers?
28:54 Was it like basically a percentage of each one?
28:57 You know, like, so 81045,
29:00 is that what the administration recommended
29:02 for food pantry assistance,
29:03 or did you guys run some numbers on that?
29:07 These are exactly in line
29:08 with the city's recommendations.
29:10 Okay, all right, thank you, I understand.
29:13 No further questions, Chair Boll.
29:27 You okay, Tom?
29:29 Yep.
29:32 Any more questions from Councilman Baker?
29:35 No, I just want to thank the administration
29:39 and Co-Chair Foley for your work here, it's a...
29:45 Okay, I'd like to open it up to other Councilmembers.
29:48 Councilman Srebrick, excuse me, Councilmember Marks.
29:57 No comment from Councilmember Marks.
29:59 No comments.
29:59 Okay, thank you.
30:02 Councilman Evans?
30:03 Yeah, thanks, my questions were actually answered by,
30:06 or asked by previous folks, so I'm good, thanks.
30:09 Okay, thanks, Councilwoman Hamilton-Steiner.
30:14 So Co-Chair Foley,
30:17 I think that it is commendable
30:20 that you and the group came up with
30:23 a way to improve the process and get more engaged.
30:26 I served on Charter Review Commission
30:28 and we felt the same way,
30:30 in the sense that you have six months
30:33 to essentially do some deep diving
30:35 and to do a lot of work,
30:37 and it just was not enough time,
30:40 but that's charter-bound and all that stuff.
30:43 So, and I'm not, and I should know the answer,
30:45 but I probably have to dig a little bit more
30:48 and see if,
30:49 or if anyone, or if maybe Chair Baker knows,
30:55 if the CAC, if that's charter-bound,
30:58 like they're the four meetings,
30:59 or is that ordinance, or?
31:02 I think it's either ordinance or resolution-based,
31:04 but I'd defer to you.
31:05 Okay, okay, so,
31:07 yeah.
31:09 So, this is interesting,
31:12 perhaps Maureen can help on this.
31:14 I tried to do kind of a,
31:16 Maureen can help on this.
31:18 I tried to do kind of a deep dive
31:20 into the establishing legislation for the CAC.
31:25 References to the CAC go back to the mid-'80s
31:29 in the archives,
31:32 but I cannot locate any if Maureen can help.
31:37 Establishing legislation for the CAC itself.
31:40 What is definitive is that,
31:45 I have some notes here,
31:47 it's a very subject,
31:48 that Resolution 71-2496
31:56 establishes like what says is a participation plan,
32:00 which is a HUD-required plan,
32:04 based on 24 CFR 91.105,
32:09 basically requiring every community
32:11 that receives EBG funds
32:14 to adopt a citizen participation plan
32:16 that has certain parameters,
32:20 pretty general parameters.
32:22 It does not require any community
32:23 to have a citizen advisory committee.
32:28 That is not a requirement.
32:30 Most EBG recipients decide to utilize
32:35 that type of committee as the vehicle
32:38 to implement its citizen participation plan,
32:42 which is what Lakewood does and has done
32:45 since the mid-'80s.
32:48 And the most detailed description
32:52 of what the CAC is and does
32:55 is included in that resolution,
32:59 the exhibit to that resolution,
33:01 which is the plan.
33:03 And really, it's very,
33:05 I mean, it's pretty straightforward and simple.
33:09 And it just describes who's on the committee,
33:13 who appoints who and for how long,
33:16 how many meetings,
33:19 but it's pretty definitive
33:20 on the committee's advisory role
33:25 to provide input,
33:26 and then ultimately, obviously,
33:28 it's counsel that makes,
33:29 that ultimately makes and approves allocations.
33:33 So it's, that's really,
33:37 so if you, I'm not gonna give a chapter in verse,
33:41 but resolution 712496 is really where
33:46 all of the information about the CAC exists
33:49 and where it is defined.
33:52 Can you send that to counsel,
33:54 or can the clerk's office, I just,
33:56 I've never, and sorry for jumping in.
33:59 Yeah, I've looked in our code,
34:01 and our code references the CAC,
34:03 but it doesn't reference the formation of the CAC,
34:07 it's the references in targeted areas
34:08 or targeted deteriorating areas.
34:11 One further point,
34:13 the only intentional change to that plan
34:17 and to the CAC itself was in 2020,
34:21 when the pandemic required us to amend it
34:26 to suit some virtual activities.
34:30 Other than that, in 29 years,
34:33 there hasn't been any
34:37 organic movement to make any changes to the plan
34:42 or to the CAC's remit or purpose
34:46 or the scope or breadth of its activities, so.
34:53 No, thank you, thank you.
34:55 So I guess I'm just supporting Chair Foley
34:59 and Chair Davis and the group
35:01 in wanting to be a little bit more engaged
35:04 and connected with the organization.
35:06 It seems like the organizations that are coming
35:08 and requesting the dollars
35:09 and maybe have a little bit more hands-on
35:14 sort of in shaping that,
35:16 and especially since council ultimately
35:18 gets to approve that,
35:19 if what I'm hearing, the citizens,
35:21 want to be more involved,
35:22 I would definitely want to support that,
35:24 and that totally tracks with our community
35:26 and wanting to be involved
35:28 and what we're seeing with CASE
35:29 and just wanting to be more involved
35:33 and engaged and connected,
35:34 which is always great,
35:36 because that just keeps us a healthy,
35:39 thriving democracy, so I support it.
35:49 Thank you.
35:50 I'm gonna start moving really quickly here.
35:53 Actually, Mr. Baker,
35:54 since I can't find the right screen,
35:55 can you make a motion to approve
35:58 or recommend for full adoption,
36:00 if you're willing, this resolution to the full council?
36:05 Yes, I will make a motion
36:06 to recommend full adoption of resolution 2025-66.
36:14 Second.
36:15 It is, motion has been made and seconded.
36:16 Any discussion?
36:19 Hearing none, all in favor say aye.
36:21 Aye. Aye.
36:23 Opposed?
36:23 And the ayes have it, thank you.
36:25 I'm trying to do this in two minutes.
36:28 Mr. Baker, I hope if we go,
36:30 we need three minutes,
36:32 we can take that liberty.
36:35 So the next item is resolution 2025-65.
36:42 Is the law director there?
36:45 Yes, I'm here, Mr. Chair.
36:47 Okay, did my typo correction parse for you,
36:51 all provisions of the Code of Veterans
36:52 with respect to the sale or lease
36:54 of the sale on property are deemed to have been met.
36:58 So change, so I can make a motion
37:00 to change deeded to remove,
37:04 or strike deeded and replace it deemed.
37:08 Yes, sir, we apologize for that typo.
37:10 Thank you for, you know, identifying.
37:13 Yeah, no big deal.
37:14 So do you need me to make a motion or can that be?
37:20 I'll just make the motion.
37:22 I'll move that the word deeded in section two
37:26 of the resolution be stricken
37:28 and replaced with the word deemed.
37:31 Is there a second?
37:34 Second.
37:35 Motion's been made and seconded.
37:36 Any discussion?
37:38 Yeah.
37:39 None, all in favor say aye.
37:40 Aye.
37:41 Hold on a second.
37:42 I recuse myself on this vote, Councilor,
37:44 even though it's a procedural matter
37:46 that you're bringing up,
37:48 my wife's on the board of the organization,
37:49 the city is seeking to amend the lease
37:52 of the property too, so I'll abstain.
37:54 Thank you, your abstention is noted.
37:56 So we have two yes, one abstention.
37:59 That motion carries.
38:01 Very briefly, I support this resolution
38:05 and I guess my other request is to Councilman Srebik,
38:09 are you comfortable tonight referring this out of committee?
38:14 I think that would be helpful
38:15 to both the city and the tenant.
38:18 This is for the Lakewood Child Care Center's lease,
38:21 they're a five-star, which is hard to do for years,
38:26 credited child care agency.
38:28 They have run it for years
38:30 in first a hospital-owned building
38:32 that transferred to the city about 10 years ago.
38:37 And if we were to agree,
38:39 what this would do is position that child care agency
38:43 to have some long-term confidence as a tenant
38:48 that they'll be there for a while
38:49 and therefore they can make improvements
38:51 and investments to expand
38:52 and I believe add the number of infants they can care for,
38:56 which is the hardest to do or most expensive per capita.
39:00 So since they're a tenant,
39:02 there's a split incentive between,
39:04 hey, I'm renting, I don't own the facility
39:10 so I could get kicked out,
39:11 so does it make sense for me to invest
39:13 in something that'll take 10 years to pay off?
39:16 Well, I think this new lease terms would resolve that.
39:21 Director Byneton, is that a fair statement?
39:25 Yes, it is, Chairman.
39:26 Okay.
39:27 So I guess my confidence in this
39:31 that on both the tenant and they're of superb quality,
39:37 they provide a much needed service in town,
39:41 which is to provide affordably priced
39:43 and high quality health care at a convenient location
39:47 and something we care about, right?
39:50 And second, if we lost this tenant,
39:56 that would take a significant blow
39:59 to the supply of quality health care in town.
40:04 Third, we're in a position in the city
40:07 to have some say in this case directly,
40:09 whereas pick another building we don't own,
40:12 well, it's up to that property owner, it's free market.
40:15 So we essentially can renew our commitment
40:21 to this priority and that's what makes sense to me.
40:27 So I'll stop talking.
40:30 Oh, and I've also had a chance to confer a little
40:33 with the tenant and they're affirming
40:39 what Director Byneton already said,
40:41 that they agree with the terms
40:45 are put them in a strong position
40:47 for the long-term growth.
40:50 Councilwoman Schriebig, I can't ask your colleague
40:53 on this committee questions, but any thoughts?
40:56 Yeah, thank you, Chair Bullock.
40:58 I did wanna ask Director Byneton a question
41:01 about the tenant improvement allowance.
41:04 And if you could explain that a little further
41:06 and I did read through the contract
41:10 and the carryover each year,
41:12 but I was wondering if you had any ideas
41:14 of what they were planning to improve,
41:17 if they're planning to build out
41:18 or is it an interior remodeling
41:21 or if you could shed any light on that, thank you.
41:25 Certainly, through Chairman Bullock.
41:27 So as you know, we have the North Point Realty,
41:31 they are the liaison,
41:33 the management team for this property.
41:35 When improvements need to occur at that building,
41:39 they're responsible for bidding it out
41:41 or getting the quotes and moving forward.
41:43 However, the Child Care Center
41:45 would like to do some interior work
41:47 and like Chairman Bullock has mentioned,
41:52 they wanna make improvements that are more long-term.
41:54 So they're putting together their list
41:56 of what they would like to do
41:59 and that's why they would like to carry over the money
42:01 when necessary some years
42:03 to have a little larger projects.
42:05 So it starts at, let's see,
42:08 I think it was $15,000 a year to start with
42:12 for so many years and then it increases,
42:15 but they haven't talked about doing a large buildout.
42:18 There is an opportunity on the second floor
42:20 for them to expand
42:23 and we have not come to any sort of agreement
42:25 or negotiated on that yet
42:26 so that might be something
42:27 that the tenant improvement allowance could go towards,
42:31 but essentially they just want the ability
42:34 to move faster and do painting
42:36 and if they need shelves,
42:39 minor renovations as needed moving forward.
42:42 Is there anyone on the second floor right now?
42:46 There is not right now.
42:47 The clinic had vacated the second floor
42:50 when we've had some discussions internally
42:53 and with the Child Care Center
42:55 about possible lease in the future,
42:58 but we're not to that point yet.
42:59 Thank you and thank you Chair Bullock.
43:02 I am ready to support this amendment.
43:05 Okay, I appreciate it.
43:07 So I'll make a motion to recommend
43:10 for adoption to the full council.
43:13 Resolution 2025-65 is amended.
43:17 Second.
43:19 Motion is made and seconded.
43:20 Any discussion?
43:23 And I will call for abstentions as well.
43:26 All in favor say aye.
43:28 Aye.
43:29 Opposed and abstentions.
43:32 I abstain.
43:34 Thank you.
43:35 And the ayes have it, the motion carries.
43:37 Director Bidenton, I want to say in particular,
43:40 thanks to you for your diligent work
43:42 on this and your responsiveness.
43:44 You and I have been conferring,
43:46 I don't know, 18 months here and there,
43:48 but you've been really thoughtful in this
43:52 and I appreciate it.
43:54 Okay, without objection,
43:55 the Finance Committee is adjourned.
44:00 Thank you Councilman Bullock.
44:01 I will just go ahead and move into the special meeting.