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Housing, Planning, & Development Committee — 2026-03-09

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0:11Approval of the minutes of the March 2, 2026 Housing, Planning & Development Committee meeting.
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR
  • 0:17 “Second.”
  • 0:18 “Motion to second.”
0:23S. ORDINANCE 02-2026 - AN ORDINANCE to take effect immediately provided it receives the affirmative vote of at least two thirds of the members of Council, or otherwise to take effect and be in force after the earliest period allowed by law, to amend Chapte
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR
  • 15:08 “I'm happy to second that motion.”
  • 15:10 “There's a motion to second. All in favor?”
  • 15:22 “Second.”

Full ASR transcript

0:00 All right, I will call to order the March 9th, 2026 meeting of the Housing, Planning
0:05 and Development Committee.
0:06 We have all members present, plus a couple of other council people.
0:10 Thank you.
0:11 First order of business, approval of the minutes of the March 2nd, 2026 Housing,
0:15 Planning and Development Committee.
0:16 I'll make a motion to approve.
0:17 Second.
0:18 Motion to second.
0:19 All in favor?
0:20 Aye.
0:21 Aye.
0:22 Motion carries.
0:24 Main order of business tonight, substitute ordinance 02-2026 pertaining to amend the
0:34 Chapter 1775 for weeds, the codified city ordinance of the City of Lakewood for the
0:40 purpose of establishing regulations for front yard plantings.
0:43 We've been around the block on this a few times.
0:47 I think we're pretty much to the end here.
0:50 So I'll turn it over to Commissioner Parmoley for his thoughts.
0:59 What?
1:00 There we go.
1:01 My thoughts are it was a long Monday back and it was nice to come to work to be
1:08 able to relax.
1:10 Yeah, we updated the diagram like we talked about last time.
1:15 So corner lot, two-foot, two-foot, interior lot, two-foot, two-foot, kind of makes sense.
1:21 Not as heavy-handed, you know, as the four-foot for the corner lots.
1:26 Still gives us a little bit of sight triangle that we can work with there in the corners
1:32 the right of way.
1:33 We had a little bit of, well, it wasn't language change, it was a number change.
1:39 Councilman Baker pointed that one out, so I think that got edited.
1:44 Kind of ready to get this one just in the books so I could spend some time with the
1:50 property maintenance staff before we start getting heavy in the planting seasons.
1:55 All right, great, thanks.
1:58 One thing I wanted to bring to attention, so Councilman Bullock, you had pointed out
2:02 something you thought was in there.
2:03 I'm not sure that's the case, but what was your, where you thought there was a discrepancy?
2:10 Thanks, Mr. Chair.
2:13 Yeah, let me find the, so in subsection three, so under 177, 177503B3, on any other lot,
2:32 managed landscapes shall have no less than a setback of no less than two feet from
2:40 the public right of way, two feet from the side property line, see figure two interior
2:43 lot.
2:44 Okay, wait a minute, that's the wrong section.
2:47 On the corner lot, managed landscapes shall have, so this is section two, a setback
2:53 of no less than two feet from the public right of way and two feet from the side
2:56 property line.
2:57 So I think the diagram, the substitute diagram doesn't show that, it shows just
3:03 two feet from the public right of way, but not from the side property line.
3:09 Or the interior lot has an error because the interior lot diagram, I don't know if
3:16 we can display on screen the diagram if we scroll down.
3:21 All right, so and scroll up just a little bit, a little bit more, a little bit more.
3:26 So if you can see section two, we actually need to see section two.
3:31 Yeah, wait, too much, sorry.
3:34 You could probably click on the margin and it'll tighten if you do that.
3:37 That would be ideal.
3:42 No, click on the space in between.
3:47 Okay, well, so maybe just let's go on the picture.
3:52 Thank you.
3:53 So okay, the point I'm driving at is are we sure that the charts match the
3:59 word in the text?
4:01 And I'm confused about the interpretation here.
4:04 It says on any other lot in three, setback of no less than two feet from the
4:09 public right of way and two feet from the side property line.
4:11 So the bottom right, figure two, interior lot shows two feet from the public
4:16 right of way, which is the bottom of the picture of the sidewalk, and then
4:19 two feet from the side property line.
4:21 So that, the interpretation would be that the driveways, normally one
4:26 driveway belongs to the property, so maybe the orange zone shouldn't be
4:30 there for one of the driveways.
4:33 Or if it's correct that it should be there for both of the driveways, then the
4:37 implication would be that the corner lot diagram in figure one also should
4:41 have an orange.
4:44 No, because if you're on a corner lot, that is your driveway.
4:49 So the driveway in the corner lot diagram belongs to whom?
4:54 That would be that property owner.
4:55 Okay.
4:56 Because opposite of that, you have the right of way being the sidewalk.
4:58 Right.
4:59 Okay.
5:00 So your argument is that that diagram is accurate.
5:03 Then how is then the interior lot diagram accurate?
5:06 Because one of those driveways would have to be to the homeowner
5:09 who owns it in the yard.
5:10 Correct.
5:11 So one of the two.
5:12 Or I think, so my analysis there would be that this is showing the
5:20 ownership.
5:21 And so over that orange line could be a driveway, right?
5:25 Right.
5:26 Because there are some instances where your driveway and your neighbor's
5:28 driveway is the property line, right?
5:30 Like there's literally, so this is just showing what you can do on your
5:34 lot if you have a driveway next to your lot.
5:38 Yeah.
5:39 I mean, the other thing we could do is take one of the orange
5:41 boundaries out of one side of the interior lot.
5:44 I think that's the point of crux of the issue.
5:47 So if you just, if you labeled one driveway owner's driveway and remove
5:51 that, I think.
5:52 I mean, if you want to dial it in that tight, that's fine.
5:54 We can do that.
5:55 Yeah.
5:56 Just for the sake of having them hear what we're saying, unless we're
5:59 trying to render the two properties on Warren Road that lack.
6:04 Yeah.
6:05 Because I mean, with the corner lot too, that orientation, I mean,
6:08 your driveway, you know, like Franklin and Clarence, right?
6:11 Like your driveway is on Franklin.
6:13 You don't have a driveway on the opposite side like that corner lot.
6:17 So I think if we take one side off of the interior lot, like, you know,
6:24 we take the right side off and then the left driveway would be
6:27 owner's driveway.
6:28 Correct.
6:29 Yeah.
6:30 So that's the...
6:31 Yeah, we can do that.
6:32 So probably all that needs to happen is that change and then a
6:35 little explanatory owner's driveway, like my colleagues are saying,
6:40 and owner's over driveway.
6:42 Yeah.
6:44 And if we were to have an agreement that we'd expect that update by the
6:50 floor of the council meeting next time.
6:54 Perfect.
6:55 You know, maybe the committee would be willing to refer out with
7:00 that understanding.
7:02 Yeah.
7:03 That'd be my thought.
7:04 Yeah, and I'll just get the updated diagram because it'd be nice,
7:07 I don't know if it's possible, the way our...
7:12 Is it possible to add that in with the ordinance when it actually gets
7:16 published?
7:17 Or is that something that we'd have to go through amlegal or whatever
7:21 to have them do that?
7:26 Okay.
7:27 Because we don't have any other ordinance that we actually have
7:30 besides tables.
7:31 Like, we don't have any pictorial explanation.
7:38 I can get that cleaned up.
7:40 I think that makes a lot of sense.
7:42 Are there any other comments from the committee?
7:47 From the other colleagues?
7:49 Any other?
7:52 Please.
7:53 So, Commissioner Parmelee, we talked last meeting about this,
7:56 but the enforcement and education rollout of this I think is going to
8:01 be a significant deal to have a reasonable implementation and notice
8:08 to a homeowner who may well have been doing this because it's either
8:13 legal today or ambiguously legal today,
8:17 and even if they missed reading the proper standards,
8:21 they've sunk a bunch of money into their yard.
8:23 So, you know, the city may be technically correct to say,
8:27 hey, you got to rip it all up, but I think it's best if we have
8:31 some kind of notice, some discretion in how we implement this
8:37 with, of course, the most clear and timely enforcement on the public
8:43 right-of-way sightline blockage, right?
8:48 We work with folks as much as they want to work with us.
8:52 Which is your standard operating procedure?
8:55 Yeah.
8:56 So, I mean, if we, you know, this thing rolls out,
8:58 you know, it gets approved during next council meeting,
9:03 you know, administration's office,
9:05 we like doing some PR stuff on social media,
9:08 post it on the city's website, on Housing and Buildings' website,
9:12 have a chat with the property maintenance inspectors and Mark Jewett,
9:17 get this thing rolling this year.
9:20 Again, it's just having something in our back pocket
9:23 that gives inspectors some directive.
9:26 But if we do get those complaints that come,
9:28 and if there is stuff that is greater than three-foot within that
9:32 two-foot boundary and it's a legit complaint,
9:34 I mean, we'd have to cite it under the ordinance,
9:37 under the new ordinance, you know,
9:39 that they'd have to clip that back and maintain it.
9:42 It'd be cited under the old ordinance as well.
9:45 Oh, 100%.
9:46 Yeah, and we do.
9:47 All that stuff that hangs over the sidewalk, it's cited.
9:50 But, I mean, we're, like I said before,
9:53 it's obvious there's a lot going on in the city,
9:55 and we're not looking for trouble.
9:58 And the rollout is going to be soft.
10:00 It's not going to be heavy-handed.
10:02 I mean, we've all worked with each other for a long time.
10:04 That's not how we operate unless we have to,
10:08 and I don't like doing that.
10:10 But it's going to be a good season of coaching
10:13 and having these conversations and fielding the phone calls
10:17 and, you know, hey, can I plant X, Y, Z there,
10:20 or whatever that's going to be.
10:22 It's going to be a coaching moment for us and my staff
10:25 and the general public as well.
10:27 But just like any other new ordinance rollout,
10:30 it's a good year of feeling it out process,
10:34 and we might be talking about this again,
10:37 you know, a year after rollout.
10:39 Maybe we have to dial it in or make some changes.
10:41 But it gives folks opportunity.
10:44 I mean, I'm a big property rights advocate,
10:46 but it gives folks the opportunity to be able to do what they want,
10:50 you know, on their premises,
10:52 but gives us a little more leeway when it comes to enforcement
10:56 and just the vagueness of the ordinance that we had prior to.
11:02 It makes it rough on the property maintenance inspectors.
11:05 There is going to be a learning curve for staff and residents.
11:09 Yeah, and I appreciate that.
11:11 You do work with people who work with us.
11:15 I just want to get on the record that that's the intent here again.
11:19 I can picture one corner lot property in particular
11:23 who have perennials, I'm sure, within the two-foot orange zone.
11:29 We have a property block over from us that, you know, kind of...
11:34 You know, some of them are going to be higher than the height.
11:36 Now, they probably don't block any sight line because of the position.
11:41 So there's going to be stretches where it would be a problem
11:43 and other stretches where it wouldn't be a problem.
11:45 So that's the kind of thing.
11:46 We're not going to make a diagram for everything.
11:49 So that's where the educational process you just said is crucial.
11:53 Ordinance, I mean, just like any state building code, right?
11:56 I mean, you have to have reasonable interpretation
11:58 and put your common sense hat on with a lot of this stuff, too.
12:02 Like I said, it's going to be a learning curve for all.
12:05 But that first year will be a good, you know, feel this ordinance out,
12:10 kind of see where it gets us,
12:12 and maybe it will come off without a hitch.
12:17 You know, we'll give it a peek.
12:19 But I think we've spent some time on this thing,
12:22 and we were all pretty generous,
12:24 and there was a little give and take involved.
12:27 And we landed where we landed, and I think it's a good spot.
12:31 We'll take the new car out this summer and see how it drives,
12:34 and then, you know, might be back in the shop next year.
12:38 Yeah, on that note, I definitely want to thank you
12:41 for your work on this, Commissioner Parmelee.
12:44 Thank you. Thanks for your help.
12:45 It makes a lot of sense.
12:46 And to Councilman Baker, who kind of kicked this effort off.
12:51 For the record, again, we'll just say this explicitly allows these things.
12:55 This is why we're doing this. This is not punitive.
12:58 This is to weed out bad act.
13:01 See what I did there? Weed out.
13:03 Yeah, good.
13:04 Waiting on that one first of all.
13:06 Weed out bad actors who were just trying to use an ordinance
13:10 to not take care of their yards.
13:12 So it's not what we're looking for.
13:14 Exactly. And so just want that out there on the record
13:16 for folks watching at home.
13:18 So this is really trying to bring,
13:20 and it's in alignment with the rest of our maintenance standards.
13:23 So we're not having two different sets of standards for folks who have a lawn
13:26 and for folks who choose to do a natural planting yard.
13:29 So I appreciate all that effort.
13:31 Any other final comments from my, please?
13:34 Yeah, I'll say thank you, Commissioner Parmelee.
13:36 I think this is a, you know, good way to start, see where it goes, right?
13:40 And I do think that I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the IWIP
13:44 and kind of what this might do for stormwater kind of retention
13:50 and maybe like attenuation on certain private properties that if people,
13:55 you know, turf grass, my front lawn is turf grass.
13:58 I like the way it looks.
14:00 It doesn't do a great job of absorbing stormwater.
14:03 And there are other things you can do to absorb stormwater.
14:07 And if we give people permission to be creative
14:11 in a way that isn't them just not maintaining their lawn,
14:15 it can potentially attenuate down all the way to our wet weather issues
14:20 by holding back some of that water.
14:23 So I think that needs to at least be mentioned.
14:27 But I think I could see this, you know, us tweaking it a little bit.
14:30 I do think kind of the idea is that there's a buffer zone
14:33 that the public needs to see things.
14:36 And beyond that, this is about private property rights.
14:38 And just because someone likes one thing
14:40 and someone likes another thing, well, that's their property
14:42 as long as it's respectful and fits the code.
14:45 So with that note, I will make a motion to substitute the ordinance
14:49 with the version that's in Granicus.
14:51 With the updated diagram?
14:54 Well, no, so the diagram I think is going to have to happen
14:56 on the floor of full council.
14:58 Assuming, okay.
15:01 So I think the substitute would be this version
15:03 and then we just let President Keppel know that on the floor
15:05 there'll be a rager that we'll have to add in.
15:08 I'm happy to second that motion.
15:10 There's a motion to second. All in favor?
15:12 Aye.
15:13 Aye.
15:14 Thank you again, Mr. Parmar.
15:16 Motion to recommend.
15:18 Oh, sorry.
15:19 I will make a motion to refer this back favorably to all of council.
15:22 Second.
15:23 All in favor?
15:24 Aye.
15:25 Aye.
15:26 That's all the business before council or before the committee.
15:29 Well, thanks for being here, Mr. Parmarly.
15:31 Go home and enjoy the weather.
15:33 We'll talk to you next time.